Hello to you both. One thing I thought was does the fact that they’ve been genetically isolated and yet they have this striking morphological resemblance of current wolves, does that say anything about the body plan of a wolf, because it strikes me that evolution has gone, ‘This is a brilliant, lethal blueprint. How do we know that what’s there now hasn’t been sullied by previous Moon missions? Dire wolf - Canis dirus - is a long extinct species of canine that reached lengths of up to six feet when alive. Absolutely. New clues rule out one theory. The problems are on the ethics, and different ethicists have different attitudes, different countries and regulators have different approaches, so I know it’s in the works over there in the UK but I just don’t see it happening in the US. I’ll put links to both of those in this week’s show notes, and I hope you’ll join us again in future. This animal disappeared during the late Quaternar… Well, one interesting thing about how satellites work is a lot of them have a north to south rotation. There is much concern around the world about two faster-spreading variants of SARS-CoV-2. Oh, absolutely. DNA clues point to how dire wolves went extinct, and a round-up of the main impacts of Brexit on science. The New York Times: Inside the C.I.A., She Became a Spy for Planet Earth. This is this sort of form that has been around for a very long time because it’s so efficient. Well, let’s leave it there both. These hoofed mammals formed the bulk of a dire wolf’s diet, as revealed by tooth analyses. Extinct dire wolves split off from other wolves nearly six million years ago and were only a distant relative of today’s wolves, according to a new study, which puts to bed a mystery that biologists have pondered for more than 100 years. In this episode: 00:45 Dire wolf DNA Dire wolves were huge predators that commonly roamed across North America before disappearing around 13,000 years ago. That’s currently how vaccines for the seasonal flu or for rabies are assessed, but you need some level of confidence that we can do that for coronavirus. The disappearance of their prey almost certainly drove the dire wolf extinct. Unsurprisingly, it’s not hugely clear because they are still kind of secretive. And additionally, because they have these side effects, in order to get around that, these vaccines need to be given in two lower doses to reduce those side effects, but then having a two-dose vaccine regimen we know can cause problems because people may miss their second dose or they may not get back there in time for their second dose, and it opens up a whole can of worms which certainly we’ve discussed in the UK a lot recently about what the correct dosing regimen should be. Dire wolves were real—and even stranger than we thought A study of extinct dire wolf DNA reveals surprises, including that the carnivores, made famous as … They lived during the Pleistocene and Early Holocene epochs … One La Brea sample did yield something new, though: a collagen protein sequence that let researchers compare dire wolves with domestic dogs, gray wolves, coyotes, and African wolves. The big one is funding, and the UK has been the recipient of a lot of research money from various EU schemes, and there were fears in the UK that there would be no more access to this funding in the future. Why was the ancient city of Cahokia abandoned? The real thing is long gone, but we may still … Elie and Noah, thank you so much. So, if you’re a UK scientist and you’re wanting to go and work in the EU, you’re going to have to look specifically at the country that you’re going to and figure out what kind of visa you’re going to need. And each of these platforms, each type of vaccine, has it’s individual costs and benefits. Now it’s being found everywhere on earth, including the oceans. What do you cover? She has written articles for several online websites, and had an article published in a Canadian magazine on the most haunted locations in Atlantic Canada. So, the dire wolf didn’t have this potential mechanism. But these are particularly important to think about in the context of these vaccine rollouts right now because some of the downsides, I suppose, of RNA-based technology in particular could have a really big impact in, for example, how many people are willing to take up vaccines at a time when there is this sort of vague, underlying, bubbling concern amongst many people that perhaps because these vaccines are being developed so fast something may have gone awry which, of course, we’ve discussed is not really the case in this case, but that is a concern, and the fact that they could illicit things that could cause fear or worry among the populous, if they see them being more reactive. In our first show of 2021, probing the extinct dire wolf’s DNA… Host: Nick Howe And what the UK’s science relationship with the EU will look like post-Brexit. Thanks to the hit television series Game of Thrones, the dire wolf has gained a near-mythical status. The Dire Wolf. The current team's attempts didn't fare much better. But there’s another school of thought of if people just go up there and start sort of digging it up and maybe bringing it back to Earth, that it could be contaminated by the very experiments set to go and have a look at it. If you live in Southern California, you're smack dab in dire wolf … We’ve talked about some for the RNA vaccines there. (Anyonge & Roman 2006) Canis dirus guildayi (smaller individuals, western U.S.) Canis dirus dirus (larger individuals, eastern U.S.) Now, this would normally be the time in the show for Coronapod, but there has been a lot of coronavirus related news recently, so we’ll be putting out a standalone episode later on in the week. They are not as oppressive as Smilodons, but their pack strength and stamina are much better than that of them.. And as I say, this water is of great interest to researchers but there’s been a bit of a dilemma. We’re talking about a time at which the climate was on average colder than we are now, with quite a few glacial periods where a large proportion of North America would have been covered by a very thick ice sheet, and everything that was living south of the Canadian-American border would have been living in a sort of dry and relatively warm environment. But it was a real animal that roamed the Americas for at least 250,000 years, until it became extinct towards the end of the last ice age around 13,000 years ago. One group is trying to change that, however. Image credit: From the Jesse Earl Hyde Collection, Case Western Reserve University (CWRU) Department of Geological Sciences. People were saying, ‘Well, do we want to have UK researchers leading this programme when they might be out in a year, two years, three years?’ So, that created such a problem and now, in theory, there is stability, the UK is part of this programme, that should not happen anymore, but there’s also a bit of reputational damage. The dire wolf (Canis dirus) is an extinct species of wolf that lived in the Americas. What’s interesting about the grey wolf is that it’s extremely plastic. The dire wolf's teeth didn't only slice through the flesh of … Pluto’s distinctive blue haze may be a result of an atmosphere rich in particles of frozen organic matter. This event happened at about the same time that other comparable predators like the saber-tooth tiger also disappeared. Dire wolves menaced Pleistocene landscapes for tens of thousands of years, eventually going extinct at the end of the last ice age. Here are a few pointers pieced together about the disappearance of the dire wolf: 1. “One of my questions had always been whether dire wolves were still around when humans entered the Americas,” and whether there was any interaction between the two, says Perri, who also studies human-animal interactions. It allows us to sort of think about what we call a biogeographic model. So, staying part of that is incredibly important. And one assumes that by this point there has been the biomarker you discussed before, for the vaccine efficacy, that has been established so every time vaccine 2.0 or 3.0 gets created, we don’t have to go back through clinical trials each time, which means that you can have something akin to the seasonal flu vaccine. They go from the top to the bottom or the bottom to the top of the planet because that way you can cover a lot of the Earth. Back in 1993, Jurassic Park introduced the world to Velociraptors, via Sam Neil lecturing that one kid about how smart, stealthy and, well, effective they were. Well, hopefully with the future Moon missions we’ll see this come to light. It’s a much faster trial. Using data from the New Horizons spacecraft among other sources, the team found that because of Pluto’s cold atmosphere, organic compounds condense readily in its skies. Oh, definitely. There’s always going to be some pros and some cons. In our first show of 2021, probing the extinct dire wolf’s DNA…. Subscribe to Nature Briefing, an unmissable daily round-up of science news, opinion and analysis free in your inbox every weekday. If we think about the scientific enterprise, of course funding is very, very important, but the lifeblood of science are the people who do it, right, the scientists themselves, and now that the UK has left the European Union, that unrestricted right to go and live and work between the two regions has ended, and of course that could affect people being able to go into labs and do research. It is one of the most famous prehistoric North American carnivores. But on the other hand, all the investment, both scientifically but also in terms of manufacturing capacity, companies like Moderna and Pfizer and all these other companies, they’ve built massive manufacturing plants to enable the COVID response, and it means that everything they do in the future using this technology and for other infectious diseases becomes cheaper and easier to do. And why did they die out around 13,000 years ago, after surviving for hundreds of millennia? Yeah, and just one small thing, the two-dose regimen, it’s not entirely about side effects. We think that the dire wolf was part of this lineage that was in America for millions of years, and most of its evolution took place in the Americas as opposed to all of the other living canids that live nowadays, even those that are in the Americas nowadays. Lizzie, thank you so much for joining me today. And the other way around, again, it’s a little bit trickier because obviously you’ve got a whole different bunch of countries, you’ve got 27 more countries within the EU, and although they have some harmonisation over the rules for visas for scientists, there’s a little bit of difference still that exists between those countries. A study of extinct dire wolf DNA reveals surprises, including that the carnivores, made famous as fictional pets in Game of Thrones, weren't closely related to wolves. It seems that there is one rule for this Canis species, one very important rule in their evolution is mix up with whatever is living there. I mean, it covers a lot of sectors. We discuss the implications of this trade-deal for science funding, the movement of researchers, and data sharing. It lived during the late Pleistocene epoch from around 125,000 to 9,440 years ago. Well, that’s a great question, Nick, and the answer is water or ice, I guess, because this water is frozen, that’s tucked away in some of the craters there. “Dire wolves and gray wolves look super similar morphologically, but the genetics say they are not related closely in any way,” explains Angela Perri, an archaeologist at Durham University, and co-author of a paper on dire wolf genetics published Wednesday in the journal Nature. But until that therapy has been discovered or proven, it’s going to remain a controversial approach. The extinct, prehistoric Dire Wolf was the largest wolf to ever roam our planet. Read that research in full in Science. Species: Canis dirus (Leidy, 1858) - dire wolf (extinct) Subspecies: Canis dirus guildayi (extinct) Subspecies: Canis dirus dirus (extinct) Body Weight 34-67 kg (75-148 lb) Head-Body Length 125 cm (4.1 ft) Shoulder Height 80 cm (2.6 ft) Tail Length 63 cm (2 ft) Pelage Unknown; may have been similar to modern gray wolves. Mice witnessing another mouse in fear or pain or even gaining relief from pain mirrored those emotions in their brain circuitry. (via SciShow) When you hear the words dire wolf, your mind might jump to Game of Thrones or Dungeons and Dragons, but dire wolves are not just in the realm of fantasy and fiction.They were real animals that lived during the last Ice Age, and we're still learning a lot about them, like the fact that they aren't wolves! But it’s not ideal. Maybe it’s just because in my head getting a vaccine just makes me really happy as a concept because I’ve been thinking about it for so long, but it does kind of hinge on the huge development and money and time that’s been thrown into vaccines because of the pandemic being sustained somewhat. After sequencing five genomes from dire wolf fossils between 50,000 and 13,000 years old, the researchers found that the animals belonged to a much older lineage of dogs. So, I think, at least among the big companies, they’re going to keep at it. Right, I mean, I don’t know where you’re going to go with this one, Nick, to be honest with you. ’ 3. Is there more data to come out and what’s the future of these satellites, do we know? On the one hand, vaccines and infectious diseases remain not huge money-makers necessarily, so that would work against the technology and any start-up that’s trying to raise capital to build a new RNA vaccine company. But we’re still waiting on it and obviously now Brexit has happened, the UK is no longer a member state, so the way around this for now is that the transition period, at least when it comes to data, has been extended. The discovery of the first dire wolf specimen occurred in 1854, in Indiana, USA. I’m Nick Howe. The species was closely related to, and for a time even coexisted with, the gray wolf (Canis lupus). 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A dire wolf or wolf king is a possibly extinct kind of wolf once found in parts of Tyrrhos, with some evidence of its existence in the mountains of Neuphany.Sightings of dire wolves persist to this day, but there has yet to be any physical evidence or confirmed reports of a dire wolf since the Bronze Eras of Preliturgy.. The dire wolf—once classified in the genus Aenocyon, meaning “terrible” or “dreadful”—is a much mythologized carnivore known for its imposing size, specialized bone-cracking back teeth, and propensity for preying on large herbivores. Tags animal extinction Dire Wolf Extinct extinct animal game of thrones Wolves Jocelyne LeBlanc works full time as a writer and is also an author with two books currently published. The oldest sample clocked in at least 50,000 years old. For about 100,000 years it lived alongside its cousins, the Gray Wolves, although they are not directly linked. And if a decision can’t be reached then what sort of areas of research could that impact? And how might one visit the Moon responsibly? Noah Baker is here of course, and making his Coronapod debut is freelance reporter Elie Dolgin. And this deal is quite expansive. That’s a super interesting story. They could reach nearly 70 kilograms, and they shared the land mass with several other now extinct mammals up until the Late Pleistocene when they all but vanished. Not in any of our lifetimes, though, as they were estimated to have died out about 11,000 to 12,000 years ago. Yeah, so this is really good news and the point on which most scientists kind of reacted with a lot of relief. New research on Indian jumping ants shows they can undergo dramatic reversible changes previously unknown in insects. Is there the expectation that applications will go up again now that they’re able to do so? It seems to have broken maybe rule number one of surviving as a Canis species. It is one of the most famous prehistoric North American carnivores. 5. Planetary scientists had thought that Pluto’s haze is formed by light-driven chemical reactions that yield complex organic compounds. Sure, but to properly resolve the story, you and your crew turned to ancient DNA, didn’t you? The trip was not without its challenges. The UK is going to be able to stay part of the European research programme, so that was Horizon 2020 but starting in 2021 the new programme called Horizon Europe. The American Alsatian is a dog from California in the USA and is a modern dog developed by Lois Denny now Lois Schwarz to be a large family companion that resembles the Dire Wolf (which is now extinct). The new findings clarify relationships among members of the dog family, placing dire wolves (Canis dirus) in a New World lineage that split from the gray wolf's ancestors some 5.5 million years ago, while further deepening the mystery around the dire wolf’s evolution and eventual extinction. Rather than sharing close genetic ties with the gray wolf (Canis lupus), as was expected from their resemblance, the dire wolves were evolutionarily distant cousins, long isolated in the Americas. We have found ourselves in a position now where approved for emergency use we have vaccines based on RNA, we have vaccines based on a viral vector, this adenovirus vector and there’s another one of those as well, and we’ve got live attenuated vaccines which are these kind of very classic, I suppose is maybe a word I’m going to use but perhaps not the ideal word to use, but a classic sort of weakened version of the coronavirus itself which is being rolled out and data is being gathered about those as we speak. How do you get around that problem because scientists need to get around that problem and they are. The strange thing really is that the UK never was out. But later on, these spy satellites were actually used for a lot of important environmental work and that’s what this article in The New York Times has been looking at. Indeed, the iconic dire wolf loomed large in Perri's imagination long before the current study began. And I think almost all pharmaceuticals, no matter what you look at, vaccines or treatments or drugs, there will be a list of cost-benefits for everything. Research Highlight: Ice bathes Pluto in a blue haze, Research Highlight: Brain maps show how empathetic mice feel each other's pain. Such genetic seclusion is unusual between related canid species, which often do interbreed. Listeners, if you’d like to know more about both of the stories we discussed, you’ll find links to them in today’s show notes. It might offer clues, for example, as to when water first appeared on the Moon or on Earth. Lizzie Gibney there who’s written a news explainer on all the topics we’ve touched on today and more. Dire wolves are now extinct. So, she doesn’t appear on any of the papers that actually came out because she was working for the CIA and it’s a very secretive organisation, but the article in The New York Times estimates that probably hundreds of papers have relied on data from these spy satellites that were released to the public. It is about shortening the time. So, what do you do? That’s what you see from a morphological perspective. Human screams can convey at least six emotions. The fossil record says that dire wolves were roaming the planet during the Pleistocene Epoch, as Forbes tells it, which was around 250,000-10,000 years ago. What does your genetic analysis do for our understanding of perhaps why the dire wolf didn’t make it through and yet the grey wolf and the cayotes did? America was once home to a massive species of wolf known as the dire wolf. But past efforts to extract substantial stretches of DNA from dire wolves, saber-toothed cats, and other animals at La Brea have largely failed—the site's hot, harsh environment cooks and shreds genetic material. So, a bit of both, really. “Because they’re so morphologically similar to gray wolves, a lot of people don't know whether they have dire wolves in their collections. So, part of this overall trade deal was to say that this associate membership status was going to happen, but that actually has to be signed off by a committee. Okay, so, at the moment, this international Committee on Space Research, their guidelines suggest that nations keep a list of all the organic materials – carbon, composites, paints, adhesives – aboard missions that are going to the Moon, and that helps scientists work out, ‘Well, that was actually brought there, so if we’ve found it, it may have come from ourselves.’ And the thought is that these lists might be expanded to keep a list of gases that could be emitted from rockets or life-support systems, and that would help sort of pull those out of the data and know what’s contamination and what isn’t. Ecotourism could help the ‘Amazon of North America’ recover. Dire Wolf - Canis dirus Weight (estimates) The dire wolf is the largest canine (extant and extinct) known within the genus Canis. So, if you arrive in a new environment then you can mix up with the species that live there, borrow a few genes and a few behaviours and sort of adapt yourself faster, or you can also do that with a new species coming in when there are changes in the environment. So, the free flow of data from the EU to the UK and vice versa was completely possible previously as an EU member state. So, regret, relief and some trepidation, I would say. In my mind, there can be a fantasy creature called a direwolf and a real life dire wolf.” In Schwarz’s mind, there can also be a modern-day dire wolf. The Real Reason Dire Wolves Went Extinct. It wasn’t really around infectious diseases. The Dire Wolf is an extinct North American species of wolf which was a great deal larger than our wolves of present day. There have been several times in recent history where this type of wolf has been portrayed. Game of Thrones dire wolves were real. But I think the grey wolf had something else. Broadly, the argument is that already you can have a scientist come in from the States or from China to the UK, to anywhere within Europe, and they will be able to take up their job – visas exist. They have what we call ecotypes. ISSN 1476-4687 (online). Now, some researchers say, ‘Hey, that’s just landing on the top layer, don’t worry about it,’ but others are more concerned. So, yeah, this is something that we’ve been asking ourselves. (Related: In pursuit of real-life dire wolves, huskies may pay the price.). Sign up for more inspiring photos, stories, and special offers from National Geographic. So, what the future is is not quite clear, but it doesn’t seem like the recent Trump administration has been interested in this sort of climate change work, but perhaps with the Biden administration there may be interest in looking at some of these other images that are maybe in the CIA, or who knows what information they’ve got. Thanks for listening. The species was closely related to, and for a time even coexisted with, the gray wolf (Canis lupus). For about 100,000 years it lived alongside its cousins, the Gray Wolves, although they are not directly linked. The species became extinct approximately 10,000 years ago, after the last Ice Age. Dire wolves, with reddish fur, facing off against gray wolves. And this story that is, as I said, in The New York Times, focuses on Dr Linda Zall who seems to have been really important in this, and she worked for the CIA and she’d previously worked using satellites and other aerial imagery for scientific work and then in the CIA she put together a team called Medea that really worked very hard to get this wealth of data, wealth of images, and put it to use to investigate how the climate and how the environment is changing over time. It was actually that collaboration really over and above the funding itself that people were really, really scared about losing so they’re very, very happy to be able to keep. It stays a lot longer than DNA and in fact, we managed to get some of these from the La Brea tar pits which are highly decorated material in which there is no DNA whatsoever. I mean, they had brought most of the infectious disease vaccines built around RNA into the clinic more than anyone else, but going into the pandemic there were literally I think I counted 12 programmes that had ever gone into phase I. Moderna launched a phase II in December of 2019 and then the coronavirus happens and all of a sudden, now there are at least six – by my last count – RNA vaccines in the clinic to now having been proven to be approximately 95% effective and others that are presumably going to have similar levels of efficacy. And what makes these areas so interesting? The resulting organic ice particles are likely a major contributor to Pluto’s haze. What If Dire Wolves Didn't Go Extinct?Subscribe To Life's Biggest Questions: http://bit.ly/2evqECeWhat If Logan Paul Beats KSI? I’m going to give you an on the one hand, on the other, kind of answer, if that’s okay. And not only that, it would also actually get at this earlier thing I was talking about, the biomarker protection. The iconic and terrifying dire wolf, made famous in the television series ‘Game of Thrones', prowled through North America until about 11,000 years ago or perhaps more, after which they went extinct. And I wonder as well, is there a risk that these things have already been contaminated? The youngest appeared to be just shy of 12,000 years old, suggesting that some dire wolves overlapped with gray wolves, coyotes, dholes, gray foxes, and perhaps early humans. 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